Wednesday, March 26, 2008

Dumb, Dumb, Dumb, Dumb, Dumb. . .

One of the best summaries of how the book of Mormon was made that I have ever seen was actually made by Trey Parker and Matt Stone, aka the writers of South Park. Now that all of their episodes are free streaming online, all can enjoy it. BTW, the language is clean (for South Park any way).

Fart One

Part Two

Part Three

Part Four (There is one "bad" word here but if you get more offended by that then what Mormons say about Jesus, we have a problem. It is no different than what you may hear on Grey's Anatomy, The Office, or any other popular show. Take the meat, leave the bone).

Oh and just for good measure, here's what Scientologists Actually Believe

What are your thoughts?


Starting To Learn said...

Would you rather have people learn of your sacred religious beliefs from an irreverent cartoon made by people who regularly mock religion, or might it be better to go to the source of the doctrine such as the official Mormon church websites, and

For perspective, here is the dialog from another South Park Episode:

Stan : "Why would God let Kenny die, Chef? Why? Kenny's my friend. Why can't God take someone else's friend?"

Chef : "Stan, sometimes God takes those closest to us, because it makes him feel better about himself. He is a very vengeful God, Stan. He's all pissed off about something we did thousands of years ago. He just can't get over it, so he doesn't care who he takes. Children, puppies, it don't matter to him, so long as it makes us sad. Do you understand?"

Stan : "But then, why does God give us anything to start with?"

Chef : "Well, look at it this way: if you want to make a baby cry, first you give it a lollipop. Then you take it away. If you never give it a lollipop to begin with, then you would have nothin' to cry about. That's like God, who gives us life and love and help just so that he can tear it all away and make us cry, so he can drink the sweet milk of our tears. You see, it's our tears, Stan, that give God his great power."

Stan : "I think I understand.

Dan said...

You are right that is a better place to actually learn about the Mormon faith/doctrine. Read the Quran to know about Islamic faith and so forth.

However, you can't get the historical background from those books of teaching. In the Pearl of Great Price (Book of Mormon), the origins of the faith is laid out but that's is it.

History is history and that can't be changed. Interpretation can but fact cannot. I have heard Glenn Beck (a Mormon radio show host) respond in much of the same light as this family on air when objections were raised about the faith ("it works for me").

As someone that has studied early American Church History in depth, I can say that this is a fairly accurate summation of their historical roots. We can read a European History book written by an American as long as they are handling the history correctly. Same with the history of the church. Pius IX did use Vatican I to declare Papal infallibility for the first time. Pope Honorius ! was called a Heretic at III Constantinople. Catholics will reconcile the two events one way and Protestants another but the facts remain the same.

Same is true here. If South Park did a historical look at the Crusades, I would have to agree with the history of it but probably disagree with there theological conclusions from it. The movie Kingdom of Heaven did that but I don't hear people claiming that this never happened. I disagree with some of the movies details but at least people know about the Leper King Baldwin IV, Saladin, and Fall of Jerusalem in the twelve century.

Same is true here. The facts are the facts. Their conclusion are a little off but the facts are there.

I also did say "eat the meat, leave the bones." If you eat a fish, you don't eat all of it, just what nourishes you. Or as Paul says in 1 Thess. 5, "Test everything, keep what is good."

Truth is truth since God created it all. Just like a secular person like Supernanny can talk about Parenting in a secular way, it is amazingly close to what proverbs says about raising a child. Same with the "evil" Muslims upholding alms to the poor and downplaying murder.

The Bible is the number 1 source for getting our view of God. I've have talked with a lot of Christians and read a lot of Christian books that will say the same things as Chef did in different words. Turn Christian TV and see for yourself.

At least here South Park is upfront with their bias and you can weed it out. Most of the time, Christians can hide their bias in careful word choices and pride. I trust people are wise enough to do that.

Gman said...

All amusing nonetheless